OH darn..cold and frost again, Matt, you might want to move them out of your frost pocket to my place. Heat loss through the ceiling is whisked away by the ventilation, preventing condensation...the roof is "cold" on it's underside. This could also help out with any possible future Brown rot and bug issues. Ripening in mid-summer, Black Ice Plum is a great addition to any yard. Late blooming, cold hardy, widely adapted. Drench your floors in black for a memorable interior scene, Black can make for rich interiors, but it can be intimidating. 11/16" Std . I do agree that the very best roof would have a full cover of Ice and Water Shield even at a 12/12 pitch. I tell you guys what...someone needs to get serious in breeding hardy plums. 2. The actual trade-name is 'Lydecker'. Northwoodswis4a. They are very tasty, but unfortunately, not freestone, like the Stanley. Its bubblegum aroma is amaizing. Other, more expensive strategies than a band of metal on the eaves exist. White flesh. do you think it's just taking up space, and I should replace it with something else? Now to get them before the squirrels! Fill a cocktail glass with ice and pour the cocktail from the mixing glass into the cocktail glass; The grapefruit peel remains in the mixing glass. Hope this helps you people on this board wondering about this plum. The buds feature aromatic notes of sour-sweet berries coupled with earthy undertones. Has anybody got large plums like they describe tennis ball size? To make the classic German dessert, you nestle plum halves into a simple cake batter, then bake until the torte rises around the plums, which soften into jam. I have a black ice that I purchase three years ago, and is on it's second crop. In 5th summer with our tree. A hot roof is unvented, the insulation is warm from the interior and the cold pressing inwards from the exterior is what causes (with air) condensation in the roof....a "hot" roof is exposed to interior heating on it's underside. Northwoodswis4, Eric,I was hoping you would ask. I'd need not just a third, but a fourth tree... Black ice is a good plum. With this gene pool, the fruit gurus of Wisconsin developed a winter hardy dessert plum that can tolerate temperatures down to –35 degrees. I suppose I am too detailed and verbose...but hard information and preparation are crucial parts to planning a home build. And it's so pretty ...I could totally see this over the vanity/ marble. A large (2 in) freestone plum with dark purple-black skin and juicy red flesh. The Black Ice is a little piece of human ingenuity in your own yard! My house is 3 story above ground very tall and white this is why when it's plus 20 my yard gets plus 30. Well, It sounds like we are all interested in this but no one yet has first hand experience. Northwoodswis4a. Although no type of plum tree (Prunus sp.) The only other thing I can say is that the 3 plums width ranged from 1 3/4" to 2 1/4". https://www.kb.jniplants.com/black-ice-plum-pruunus-lydecker Oh I don't have fruit yet. University of Wisconsin River Falls. I just can't quite bring myself to buy a tree just to cut scion from it. Thanks Jessica. I currently have sofa across from the windows, 2 chairs in front of windows, recliner next to sofa at fireplace end. No wait! Very sweet juicy reddish-purple semi-freestone flesh. I would say more like golf ball size. The plants are the least hardy of the various kinds of plum, although selected varieties are grown in the milder northern regions. I just don't know how it works for scion....can't be more than the royalty on a whole tree, but perhaps it can only be done by previous agreement. I have done some further research on these plums this eve. in the shoots having terminal bud and solitary side buds (not clustered), the flowers in groups of one to five together on short stems, and the fruit having a groove running down one side and a smooth stone (or pit). Peel plums and remove pits. My kids hoarded this plum once we got the first taste. All septic systems work by the same principles, evaporation, transpiration or aspiration. Septic systems in poor soils are commonplace here in Sonoma County...Our soils are very unkind in many areas. If you live in a colder climate they may not ever ripen . A few European plum varieties such as Damson, Italian Prune, Valor, and Stanley are at least partially self-fertile but will generally yield better with cross-pollination. Very high taste test scores, one of the best plums … This tree is too vigorous here and grew so fast the bark split badly ( guess that's what caused the fungus/disease to appear). Last 4 days were below zero in okotoks and my house never seen any. © 2018 Jim Whitings Nursery & Garden Center. Will they accept hybrid plum pollen like waneta? google the pics for black ice plum and the pics that show the red flesh are like mine. I am told you need to cut and paste from there as the gardenweb submission form doesn't work.Thanks. Does anyone know what is considered acceptable and legal practice when grafting in material still under patent? Also my La Crescent was blooming on April 30th. Black Ice - Black skin. The Toka was healthy and vibrant. LaCrescent-Golden Plums in August Black Ice- Purplish, with red fleshElmore Golden Yellow with yellow flesh, small abundant fruit, loads of blossoms, hybrid vigor.The clear winner here at our farm. Hopefully that will improve as the tree matures. Sweet and juicy but still firm when fully ripe, with very little tartness at skin and pit. They were Black Ice, Bubblegum plum(Toka), Burgundy and Sweet Treat Plurrey. BlackIce™ is a cross between a cherry plum and a conventional Japanese dessert plum resulting in large fruit with superior winter hardiness and an early ripening date. A shrubby fruit tree with showy clusters of white flowers in spring followed by luscious black plums in mid-summer, variable growth habit; this is actually a cross between a cherry-plum and a plum so it's slightly hardier than most plums. Have no fear — when used right, it's one of the best decorating colors around, Once seen only in teenagers’ bedrooms, black these days is chic and showing up everywhere. Toka has meh fruit, I'm told. Global warming trends are causing your freeze thaw issues...these will effect the entire roof and the critical time is as the water continues to flow and the air cools down again for the night (or day!). .... Or, there's this galvanized mirror from pottery barn on sale today for $104, was $349. Hey everyone, I'm new! I have a decent crop of toka this year but they are still weeks away from being ripe. The Black Ice Plum tree is the love child of a California cherry plum tree and a large Japanese plum tree called P. Salicina. Purple heart included. the wall across from the window is ~ 14 ft. and then it angles in, the angled portion is ~ 5 ft.4 in. i would dearly love a mirabelle, but as I understand it nothing I have at present will pollinate it. Decadent and different, purples from lavender to plum can make a dining area a treat for the eyes, Mein Benutzererlebnis mit Cookies anpassen, Bar and Counter Stools With Free Shipping, No Neutral Ground? Has black skinned fruit with melting juicy red flesh. Most Japanese plums need cross-pollina-tion. Black Ice : Zones 3 - 8. Sep 1, 2018 - An easy, delicious, and dairy-free summer recipe for fruity Black Plum Ice Cream that uses only honey for sweetness and optional chocolate chips. Your site is incredible..and I wish I could travel to help! Japanese plums have relatively large, soft, and juicy fruit, sometimes with tart flesh near the pit. This tree will not be a suitable pollinator. Ripening in mid-summer, Black Ice Plum is a great addition to any yard. Ice damming occurs when warm roofs melt snow and the resultant snow melt hits the unheated eaves. I really have no more room for more plum trees, although i will say that my family seems to perfer plums to peaches or anything else for that matter. Fill cylinder of ice cream freezer two-thirds full; freeze according to manufacturer's directions. Thank you for notes on deliciousness! Self-fertile. We use full Ice and Water Shield protection in low pitch roofs, 5/12 and under. Maybe their is some sort of an opportunity for you to tour the plum breeding program at the U of Wisc in River Falls that it mentions. the cabinet will almost fill that wall entirely. But I know there are several in their collection not on the list this year. they're not heavy producers so don't count on tons of fruit . Does it taste as good as its described? Fast Growing Trees was great to work with and … Ripens late August. They don't turn black until they are ready to explode .in my opinion only good for fresh eating.but that's all I'm good for so they suite me well. Perhaps the JUICIEST Plum You’ve Ever Tasted The California cherry plum gives this black plum … from seed savers exchange has the following description. Plum (Berries, minor fruits and fruit trees) We offer several cultivars of sweet plum trees of all colors which have been selected for their hardiness, their good taste and production as well as their resistance to diseases in some cases. Allow to drain well. maybe 35 feet away. Mine was in bloom on April 30th, as were my Waneta and Pipestone. I see you are in Ottawa, you might be lucky if you try "Herb and spice" (when they are in season). Black Ice - Black skin. Wondering if anybody knows what the best pollinators are for these guys. The pics above with the 2 chairs at the open end of the room did not work. Edible Qualities. If I get some pluots (grown in containers), i'll try crossing them with Superior/Alderman/etc and grow out the seedlings... Do plum purple, olive green and light blue go together? die App nutzen, stimmen Sie der Verwendung von Cookies und von ähnlichen Verfahren der Houzz Gruppe zur Verbesserung der Produkte, Dienstleistungen, zur Darstellung von relevanten Inhalten und um das Nutzererlebnis anzupassen, zu. Ripens late August. I planted three more in 2014. The skin is a bit sour and the flesh, really juicy and sweet. We've been using a product called "Tiger Paws" lately, a polypropylene membrane used like the old building paper (tar paper) that rolls out and plastic cap nails down. Anyone have opinions or experience with the SLN varieties "Vermont plum" or "Percy's"? White flesh, I would not call the flesh to be white. I'm still working on this room....I still need help. About head room in the loft. The fruits have a sweet taste and a juicy texture. I recall that some one replied to an alike inquiry here I think last Fall saying taste/texture was fine, but size may have been an issue. We have a wild plum tree in our yard that grows reddish-purple fruit. Opinions on powder room mirror and sconces.... That name makes the fruit sound kind of dangerous- you have to be sure to not drive your car onto any. Best enjoyed with a towel in hand. If you let toka properly ripen on the tree until they are soft and colour deep red they are one of the best plums I've tasted . The last two years the late frosts or cold winters caused total lack of plums on any of my plum varieties. This variety has so much potential for introduction commercially and was among our best tasting varieties last season. The spring point of the wall to sloping ceiling can be no less than 5'. I live only about 15 miles from where it was developed, so assume it will be hardy for our area. Regarding "hot" vs. "cold" roof technology...a cold roof is exposed to the air on it's underside by air venting. Requires a pollinator and grows only 10-15’ tall. They have set a few this year. you know, I explicitly bought a toka so it would fertilize the black ice. The fruit are most often used in the following ways: Fresh Eating; Cooking; Baking; Preserves; Features & Attributes. The first tree is still fairly small, about six feet tall, partly due to dry, sandy soil, I assume. The licensed marketing name is the 'Black Ice'. So juicy and sweet. BlackIce™ is a cross between a cherry plum and a conventional Japanese dessert plum resulting in large fruit with superior winter hardiness and an early ripening date. Site Produced by, »  Produces dark red round fruit and red flesh, ready to pick mid summer. Black Ice Plum is a quick-to-bear variety, naturally small, somewhat self fruitful though more productive with a pollinator such as Toka. Is it as easy as finding some scion and then sending a couple of bucks to the university, or am I supposed to go through one of their licensed propagators like Fedco or SLN? My trees are wee babies. Patented. Whiffletree lists both BlackIce and Toka. BlackIce Cherry-Plum is a small tree that is typically grown for its edible qualities. The Black Ice plum inherited its size from the Japanese variety making it one of the largest hybrid plums. Asked April 19, 2018, 3:16 PM EDT. Just my opinion.... Can't we all just get along when it comes to color versus neutrals? Black skin, I would my black ice plum skin color to be black. Self-fertile. Excellent flavor, I definitely have to agree with this! Place in a food processor, cover and process plums until smooth. Stunning, perfectly shaped, deep purplish-brown fruit that is almost black. I did not fully detail the roof, as another line of bituminous membrane is necessary to extend up the roof above the plate line an additional foot minimum. BlackIce Plum- zone 4-8. An R-48 should go a long way towards preventing interior air temperatures from melting roof snow. So in that light. Anyone fruiting and have an opinion? Most old house have or had minimal insulation. Athena, I am fully in support of plant breeders and have no problem with royalties...as I said. BriAnDaren, I don't have Toka, but bought some fruits from local stores/farmers' markets. no frost at my house. As an Indica-dominant hybrid with anywhere between 19-24% THC content, Black Ice delivers a heavy calming effect and is best enjoyed during the evening. I have found a source (thanks to Konrad I think) for black ice plum. O K… a delicious vanilla ice cream, with fresh raspberries, a little Framboise poured over top and dark chocolate shavings. Still struggling with putting the on the sofa wall, sofa on the window wall, but do love sitting on the sofa looking out the window. BlackIce Cherry-Plum is a small tree that is commonly grown for its edible qualities. I have to agree with mattpf about Toka, definetly the best non-euro plum I tasted grown in this climate (southern Ontario/Quebec). I just bought the toka and black ice together because I thought they would like each other. It sounds rather dedicated to me in their brief description. At least am hoping so. Frank, Yes fedco is offering a bunch as scion. Self fertile, not sure about this one. When ripening it turns from green to light purple to dark purple and then to black. What I can tell you is that I planted 4 jap/hybrid trees in fall of 2012 and spring of 2013. Precocious, heavy setting, requires thinning. Hope this clarifies things. In general, the darker (purple-er) the plum, the sweeter the fruit flesh. 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